hello forum,.
i'm new here and not sure where to post.
so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.
Garrett, since you suffer from severe depression have you gone to see a doctor?
Depending on your personal history and diagnosis they may prescribe medication that could help. I know this from personal experience since I too have suffered from severe depression all my life. I remember sitting at the meeting one day and, for no reason at all, was about to start crying. I wish my elders had counseled me about getting help instead of the usual "pray to Jehovah" crap.
hello forum,.
i'm new here and not sure where to post.
so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.
Welcome Garrett.
It's sad that they emphasize getting in hours but don't spend 10 minutes with their own members when in need. You should find this site to be most interesting and helpful.
Whatever you do, don't put anything in writing. Just fade until they no longer notice your absence from the meetings which seems to be the case already.
because regardless of having seen a lot of bad things, if true, some of the things i read there have reached new thresholds of bs.
who are these people?
i posted some comments there because i was sincerely confused as to the nature of their article.. http://jehovahstrumpet.com/brother-survives-nazi-persecution-disfellowshiped-for-smoking/.
as an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.
Naughty girl! How old were you when you first started playing your mischievous pranks?
corinthians 1:18, holman christian standard bible "for to those who are perishing the message of the cross is foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is gods power.
an austrian radiologist, hermann moedder, experimented with medical students in the 40's, hanging them by their wrists with their hands directly above their heads (much like the watchtower pictures jesus on a stake).
in a few minutes, the students became pale, their lung capacity dropped from 5.2 to 1.5 liters, blood pressure decreased and the pulse rate increased.
Samaritan At the Well: "...the article said something to the effect "does it really matter if he did or not"".
It does matter to them if they make a claim that the cross is a pagan symbol with evil intentions by Satan in having people use it.
corinthians 1:18, holman christian standard bible "for to those who are perishing the message of the cross is foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is gods power.
an austrian radiologist, hermann moedder, experimented with medical students in the 40's, hanging them by their wrists with their hands directly above their heads (much like the watchtower pictures jesus on a stake).
in a few minutes, the students became pale, their lung capacity dropped from 5.2 to 1.5 liters, blood pressure decreased and the pulse rate increased.
If I remember correctly, the JWs in their Babylon the Great book, made the following arguments.
1. The cross was derived from the pagan Egyptian symbol known as Crux Ankh which looked like this
This cross was supposed to be a phallic symbol incorporating the genitalia of male and female. As you can tell by the image that argument is stretching it quite a bit.
2. Then there was the argument that compared the Christian cross with the Babylonian Tammuz cross which actually looked like a cross.
The counter argument is that the t shape is so simple that someone is bound to use it even if there is no connection with each other. A child doodling with a pencil or a chimpanzee with a paintbrush could draw a t .
corinthians 1:18, holman christian standard bible "for to those who are perishing the message of the cross is foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is gods power.
an austrian radiologist, hermann moedder, experimented with medical students in the 40's, hanging them by their wrists with their hands directly above their heads (much like the watchtower pictures jesus on a stake).
in a few minutes, the students became pale, their lung capacity dropped from 5.2 to 1.5 liters, blood pressure decreased and the pulse rate increased.
Jonathan Drake, you've done your research. I believe the Romans called the cross beam Patibulum in Latin.
as an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.
as an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.
rebel8: "Also, I played lots of practical jokes on the sistas and bros. Lots."
Could you tell us a few?
corinthians 1:18, holman christian standard bible "for to those who are perishing the message of the cross is foolishness, but to us who are being saved it is gods power.
an austrian radiologist, hermann moedder, experimented with medical students in the 40's, hanging them by their wrists with their hands directly above their heads (much like the watchtower pictures jesus on a stake).
in a few minutes, the students became pale, their lung capacity dropped from 5.2 to 1.5 liters, blood pressure decreased and the pulse rate increased.
Terry: "Not quite sure what THIS is:"
Could it be something that current day "Bible Students" have? Do they still use that symbol?
